{"id":10248,"date":"2024-10-21T14:39:31","date_gmt":"2024-10-21T13:39:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/seecheck.org\/?p=10248"},"modified":"2024-10-30T15:29:13","modified_gmt":"2024-10-30T14:29:13","slug":"politikas-text-about-the-cyrillic-origin-of-european-literacy-is-full-of-mistakes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seecheck.org\/index.php\/2024\/10\/21\/politikas-text-about-the-cyrillic-origin-of-european-literacy-is-full-of-mistakes\/","title":{"rendered":"Politika\u2019s Text About \u201cThe Cyrillic Origin of European Literacy\u201d Is Full of Mistakes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fakenews.rs\/2024\/10\/19\/azbucno-poreklo-evropske-pismenosti\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\"><em>Original article<\/em><\/a><em> (in Serbian) was published on 19\/10\/2024; Author: Marija Zemunovi\u0107<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Politika published a <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.ph\/mp7dt\">text<\/a> \u201cThe Cyrillic Origin of European Literacy\u201d in which the author presents several inaccurate claims &#8211; about the so-called \u201cVinca script\u201d, the Cyrillic order of letters in ancient Roman books, and the Etruscan linguistic tradition. The article was published the same day in the printed edition, in the \u201cAmong Us\u201d section, written by readers of this paper.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><strong>\u201cLetter records found in Vinca\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The author relies on pseudoscientific theses about the so-called \u201cVinca script\u201d, which we have previously <a href=\"https:\/\/fakenews.rs\/2023\/01\/09\/ne-u-nacionalnom-muzeju-irske-nema-srpskog-jevandelja-iz-petog-veka\/\">discussed<\/a>: writer Radivoje Pesic presented his \u201cinterpretation\u201d of this script in the 1980s, and the same idea was promoted by Jovan Deretic in his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zapadnisrbi.com\/images\/PDF\/Jovan-Dereti-Anticka-Srbija.pdf\">book<\/a> \u201cAncient Serbia\u201d. The author of Politika\u2019s article states the following:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>After the last Ice Age (approximately 10,000 years BCE), conditions suitable for life were created. The development of the Danube civilization followed. Letter records were found at the archaeological site of Vinca on the Danube and at the site of the village of Dispilio on Lake Kastoria (in the Greek part of Macedonia).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>However, the relevant academic community does not believe that the Vinca script existed, nor that the system of signs from Vinca can be considered a script, and thus not a precursor to \u201cEuropean literacy\u201d. The idea of the \u201cVin\u010da script\u201d as a Vinca writing system belongs to the realm of pseudoscience. Aleksandar Palavestra from the Department of Archaeology at the Faculty of Philosophy in Belgrade wrote in the <a href=\"https:\/\/reff.f.bg.ac.rs\/bitstream\/handle\/123456789\/965\/962.pdf?sequence=1&amp;isAllowed=y\">paper<\/a> \u201cThe Invention of Tradition: &#8216;Vinca Script&#8217;\u201d precisely about this issue:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Based on the existing evidence, it can be concluded that there is no Vinca script. Not even a proto-script! After the exhibition in Novi Sad (and the published catalog), I would say that, generally, apart from sporadic cases, there are no signs either. &#8216;Vinca script&#8217; is just one link in a chain of various invented traditions that always thrive in circumstances of a shaken identity of a community, as a surrogate for legitimacy and cement for national and social cohesion.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>In the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/zivot\/nauka\/zasto-vincansko-pismo-nije-pismo\/\">text<\/a> \u201cWhy Vinca Script is Not a Script?\u201d, Danas explains that we are dealing with isolated signs: they are too few, heterogeneous, and unsystematic to form a script. Furthermore, there are neither words nor sentences in the so-called \u201crecords\u201d, let alone any text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><strong>\u201cIn ancient Roman books, letters have been arranged in Cyrillic order\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The article also mentions examples intended to show that letters in various ancient scripts were presented in Cyrillic order, in order to support the claim from the title about the Cyrillic origin of European literacy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the <a href=\"https:\/\/amz-shop.hr\/proizvod\/post-scriptum-povijest-i-znaenje-umijea-pisanja\/\">book<\/a> \u201cPost Scriptum: The History and Significance of the Art of Writing\u201d, the oldest confirmed alphabet is Phoenician: \u201cPhoenician is the first script in which one sign represented one sound, in contrast to complex other scripts such as cuneiform or Egyptian hieroglyphs. It developed from the aforementioned proto-Sinaitic, which developed in ancient Egypt for communication among Semitic workers, and was influenced by Egyptian hieratic,\u201d writes Kristina Sekrst, a linguist from the Faculty of Philosophy in Zagreb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She explains that the order of letters also developed from proto-Sinaitic to its derivatives. \u201cAs for the order, it is the following \u2014 such an arrangement was inherited from proto-Sinaitic scripts, partly even from Egyptian hieroglyphs (where one can easily see the similarity of some Egyptian signs). Therefore, a similar order will be seen in, for example, Semitic languages, since it originates from the same proto-Sinaitic root, so it is not surprising that we have aleph as the first letter in Hebrew script, followed by bet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The author of Politika\u2019s article states that \u201cancient Roman, i.e., Etruscan books, which were in use 3,000 years ago, arranged letters from A to \u0160\u201d. It is worth noting that the author uses the adjective \u201cEtruscan\u201d twice and misspells it both times, omitting the second letter \u201cr.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sekrst explains that \u201cancient Roman\u201d and \u201cEtruscan\u201d are not synonyms, as they do not refer to the same culture, and the order did not go from \u201ca\u201d to \u201c\u0161\u201d, but rather \u2014 from \u201ca\u201d to \u201cf\u201d more likely. She says that we do not know much about Etruscan, but the current consensus in the field is that the Latin alphabet developed from the Etruscan alphabet: \u201cThe sequence is as follows: hieroglyphic writing &gt; proto-Sinaitic writing &gt; Semitic scripts, including Phoenician syllabary &gt; Greek script &gt; Etruscan script &gt; Latin alphabet\u201d, states Sekrst.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">\u201c<strong>The Greeks are not of European origin\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The controversial text also states that &#8220;the Greeks are not a people of European origin\u2014they settled in the northern Mediterranean in the first millennium BCE\u201d. However, the Encyclopaedia <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/topic\/history-of-Europe\/Greeks-Romans-and-barbarians\">Britannica<\/a> states that the Greeks \u201care of Indo-European tribes of European origin\u201d: &#8220;From 1800 BCE, the first early Greeks arrived at their later settlements between the Ionian and Aegean Seas. The merging of these earliest people who spoke Greek with their predecessors produced a civilization known as Mycenaean\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Original article (in Serbian) was published on 19\/10\/2024; Author: Marija Zemunovi\u0107 Politika published a text \u201cThe Cyrillic Origin of European Literacy\u201d in which the author presents several inaccurate claims &#8211; about the so-called \u201cVinca script\u201d, the Cyrillic order of letters in ancient Roman books, and the Etruscan linguistic tradition. 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